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Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

May 22, 2025 · 2h 24m
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  • Sholto Douglas and Trenton Bricken discuss new RL regime at Anthropic and how far scaling can take AI without architectural changes
  • Covers mechanistic interpretability research to trace model reasoning and what this reveals about AI decision-making
  • Takeaway: guidance for countries, workers, and students on preparing for AGI capabilities and labor market disruption

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