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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

First interview with Scale AI’s CEO: $14B Meta deal, what’s working in enterprise AI, and what frontier labs are building next | Jason Droege

Oct 9, 2025 · 1h 24m
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  • Scale AI's $14B Meta deal reflects how foundational training data powers every major AI lab; human experts remain essential for improving AI models beyond what benchmarks show
  • Jason's contrarian approach to company building—built Uber Eats from zero to $20B by obsessing over restaurant economics and solving urgent daily problems—applies to AI infrastructure
  • Enterprise data is largely useless for AI models today; Scale focuses on creating high-quality expert-validated data that actually moves model capabilities forward

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