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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond
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  • Matt Berninger of The National discusses overcoming depression while writing songs for their new album 'First Two Pages of Frankenstein'
  • He explains how weed and iced tea fuel his creativity and expresses hope that his songwriting impresses Phoebe Bridgers and Taylor Swift
  • Part two of a two-part National series, following Aaron Dessner's interview from the previous week

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