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#875: The Random Show — Tim and Kevin Talk Retreats, Mortality, AI Predictions, Supplements, Rock Climbing at (Almost) 50, and Not Waiting for “Someday”

Jul 16, 2026 · 01:58:00

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<p>In this edition of The Random Show, <a href="http://tim.blog" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Ferriss</a> and <a href="https://www.kevinrose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Rose</a> reunite over tequila to talk Zen retreats, learning to rock climb at (almost) 50, mortality and grief, why you should stop saying "one day," AI predictions , and much more. 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Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.</em></p><p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p><ul><li>[00:00:00] Start.</li><li>[00:00:24] A tequila toast, and getting "taxed" by alcohol as you age.</li><li>[00:02:18] Toaster at 15: a late-night health scare.</li><li>[00:06:01] Losing Om Malik, and finding out on retreat.</li><li>[00:08:03] Matt Mullenweg, Antarctica, and gratitude.</li><li>[00:09:34] Coming to terms with our limited time on Earth.</li><li>[00:14:37] Five days of silence and the koan "Mu."</li><li>[00:15:20] Kevin's micro-insight and a plug for The Way.</li><li>[00:27:25] Rock climbing after 40, and a Yosemite goal.</li><li>[00:29:18] Michael Eckert and finger-strength training.</li><li>[00:30:40] The Nug, Abrahangs, and a travel training kit.</li><li>[00:32:57] <em>Free Solo</em> and climbing with a fear of heights.</li><li>[00:37:53] <em>The Blade Itself</em>, and a friend lost in a plane crash.</li><li>[00:39:19] A2 protein and Pioneer Pastures.</li><li>[00:40:34] Maui Nui venison and the nitrate question.</li><li>[00:43:48] deltaG ketones: what they are and the catch.</li><li>[00:45:42] Ketones, dementia, and verbal fluidity.</li><li>[00:46:29] Pre-grieving a parent's decline.</li><li>[00:48:33] Training not to die: the one bike I can stand and the Norwegian 4×4.</li><li>[00:51:10] Something beats nothing: saunas, treadmills, and Duolingo chess.</li><li>[00:53:04] The MM120 anxiety study — and a small-world surprise.</li><li>[00:56:17] Psilocybin, LSD, and dementia case reports.</li><li>[01:01:28] Neutonic toothpicks and Kevin's AI-powered home.</li><li>[01:06:12] Spooky AI personalization and investment autopsies.</li><li>[01:17:38] Values cards, contractual bonds, and dark information.</li><li>[01:23:25] 360 reviews and child-rearing.</li><li>[01:24:54] Wispr Flow, Shokz, and my recording rig.</li><li>[01:29:32] The "big three" and where AI goes next.</li><li>[01:44:40] Let your winners run; buy the company, not the product.</li><li>[01:51:08] Digg's relaunch, 5-Bullet Friday, and parting thoughts.</li></ul><p><em>*</em></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on </strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong> <a href="https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of </strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong><em>, </em>please visit </strong><a href="https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</strong></a></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (<em>5-Bullet Friday</em>) at </strong><a href="https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/friday</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For transcripts of episodes, go to </strong><a href="https://tim.blog/transcripts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/transcripts</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Discover Tim’s books: </strong><a href="https://tim.blog/books" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>tim.blog/books</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Follow Tim:</strong></p><p><strong>Twitter</strong>: <a href="https://twitter.com/tferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/tferriss</a> </p><p><strong>Instagram</strong>: <a href="https://instagram.com/timferriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>YouTube</strong>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Facebook</strong>: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/timferriss</a> </p><p><strong>LinkedIn: </strong><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>

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