About This Episode
<p>This Week In Startups is made possible by:</p><p><br /></p><p>Every.io<a href="https://every.io" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://every.io</a></p><p>Shopify<a href="https://shopify.com/twist" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://shopify.com/twist</a></p><p>Render<a href="https://render.com/twist" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://render.com/twist</a></p><p>Plaud<a href="https://plaud.ai/twist" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://Plaud.ai/twist</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Today’s show:</p><p><br /></p><p>Startups like Divergent Technologies are producing components and aircraft for the military through new systems that are better, faster, and cheaper than conventional methods. CEO and co-founder Lukas Czinger stops by TWiST to share the company’s vertically integrated, AI-driven manufacturing platform and how he transitioned from hypercar parts to working directly with the Pentagon on autonomous aircraft.</p><p>Plus, 50 million Americans are on antidepressants, and it’s not necessarily the right treatment for all of them. Outro Health co-founders Brandon Goode and Dr. Mark Horowitz share their hyperbolic tapering method, which helps patients get off drugs like Zoloft and Prozac without suffering through traumatic and potentially dangerous side effects.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Guests</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>Lukas Czinger:<a href="https://x.com/lukasczinger" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://x.com/lukasczinger</a></p><p>Divergent Technologies:<a href="https://www.divergent3d.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.divergent3d.com</a></p><p>Czinger Vehicles:<a href="https://www.czinger.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.czinger.com/</a></p><p>Brandon Goode:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodebrandon/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodebrandon/</a></p><p>Dr. Mark Horowitz:<a href="https://x.com/markhoro" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://x.com/markhoro</a></p><p>Outro Health:<a href="https://outro.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://outro.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>0:00 Divergent shifted from hypercar development to 3D printing all kinds of components</p><p>1:33 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!</p><p>4:10 How 3D printing has exponentially improved</p><p>8:18 Making military components faster, better, and cheaper</p><p>9:58 Every.io - For all of your incorporation, banking, payroll, benefits, accounting, taxes or other back-office administration needs, visit https://every.io</p><p>11:00 How Divergent caught the Pentagon's attention</p><p>19:51 Shopify - Turn those What Ifs into sales with the ecommerce platform powering millions of businesses. Sign up for your $1-per-month trial today at https://shopify.com/twist</p><p>25:29 Why Outro Health helps patients taper off SSRIs</p><p>30:06 Render - Find out why 5 million developers are already using the all-in-one cloud platform, Render. Go to https://render.com/twist and apply for the Render Startup Program to get $500-$100,000 in free credits, depending on your stage and backers.</p><p>36:37 Is depression caused by a "chemical imbalance"?</p><p>46:37 Understanding the hyperbolic tapering method</p><p>58:32 How Outro makes money</p><p>1:10:01 Leaked Meta layoff audio</p><p>1:13:41 Cloudflare CEO drops "measurer" roles</p><p>1:18:16 CrowdHealth - CrowdHealth lets you ditch the bureaucracy with a peer-to-peer funding platform for your healthcare. Get started for $99 per month for your first three months by using the code TWIST at https://JoinCrowdHealth.com/twist.</p><p>1:19:17 Why Trump canceled his AI executive order</p><p>1:28:08 Polymarket sharps on Russia vs. Ukraine, SpaceX ticker symbol</p><p>1:33:34 Luel vs. Kled update: Is this nepotism at work?</p><p>1:37:02 Chris Nolan doesn't have a smartphone</p><p>1:43:04 Jason's favorite new espresso machine</p><p>Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter:<a href="https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com</a></p><p>Check out the TWIST500:<a href="https://www.twist500.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.twist500.com</a></p><p>Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple:<a href="https://rb.gy/v19fcp" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://rb.gy/v19fcp</a></p><p>Follow Lon:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/lons" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://x.com/lons</a></p><p>Follow Alex:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/alex" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://x.com/alex</a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm</a></p><p>Follow Jason:</p><p>X:<a href="https://twitter.com/Jason" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://twitter.com/Jason</a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis</a></p><p>Check out all our partner offers:<a href="https://partners.launch.co/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://partners.launch.co/</a></p><p>Great TWIST interviews:<a href="https://youtu.be/pvJa2pzuXWQ" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Will Guidara,</a><a href="https://youtu.be/9dHN4YFkgv4" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Eoghan McCabe</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-on-mod-revolt-building-a/id315114957?i=1000617333424" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Steve Huffman</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/airbnb-ceo-brian-chesky-on-early-rejection-customer/id315114957?i=1000611761112" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Brian Chesky</a>,<a href="https://youtu.be/y2UMzSqX94Q" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Bob Moesta,</a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/box-ceo-aaron-levie-breaks-down-box-ai-and-generative/id315114957?i=1000612384545" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Aaron Levie</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/sophia-amoruso-on-branding-raising-a-fund-portfolio/id315114957?i=1000601352978" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Sophia Amoruso</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/reid-hoffman-on-ais-crescendo-moment-regulation-and/id315114957?i=1000612548498" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Reid Hoffman</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/snowflake-ceo-frank-slootman-on-moving-the-needle-win/id315114957?i=1000602560622" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Frank Slootman</a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/billy-mcfarland-on-fyre-fest-fraud-failure-hacking/id315114957?i=1000610922577" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Billy McFarland</a></p><p>Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters:<a href="https://substack.com/@calacanis" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://substack.com/@calacanis</a></p><p>Follow TWiST:</p><p>Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/TWiStartups" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://twitter.com/TWiStartups</a></p><p>YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin</a></p><p>Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups</a></p><p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups</a></p><p>Substack:<a href="https://twistartups.substack.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://twistartups.substack.com</a></p><p><br /></p>